Normally Lydia I don’t comment on such a controversial subject but I just have to speak out. My wife has voiced to me several times that she would not want to be put on any kind of machine, be it a feeding tube or artificial respiration, if she were to go into a vegetative or semi-vegetative state or comma due to an accident or injury. But she also refuses to make her wishes known on paper because she has this strange belief that if she did she would be somehow promoting bad fortune in her life or something.
Anyway, it has always fallen to the spouse to determine what to do if their spouse were to fall into this unfortunate situation. It should not matter that this guy has another women in his life right now. He is her spouse and he should have the only say in this matter. It is the same thing with funeral wishes. If the person who dies made their wishes known to their spouse that they wanted cremation, for example, the parents of that spouse don’t have the right to interfere with that decision. These are very touchy issues, but this is my opinion on these matters.
My deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the parents of Terry Shaivo...to stand by helplessly as a monster and his lawyer conspire with dollar signs in their eyes to let their little girl waste away in a cruel and senseless death, they are also the victims of this ordeal. Question: Would Mr.Shaivo continue to fight if there wasn't a million dollar credit hanging over his wife's coffin? I believe in God, and I believe that His name doesn't end in Greer. Question: Does Judge Greer realize that the death sentence he has handed out will come back to haunt him? And when it does, I can only hope he realizes the true ramifications of the precedent he has set. It may be his own life that someone decides to end. I was raised that it is wrong to hate. But, I admit - i feel hatred in my heart for these cruel and money hungry BASTARDS!! I pray that God delivers hard justice and that Shaivo, his lawyer and Judge Greer choke on the fear of it.
I pity the ignorant fools who believe Terry Shaivo should die, for they have no idea what the outcome of this case will do to their lives.
I am tired of hearing she is a vegetable, and therefore not alive. She is alive. This is not opinion, it is FACT. She breathes on her own, responds to those around her, and has even said the phrase "Help me" on more than one occasion. After hearing those words, how can you condemn her? It is painfully obvious that she fears for her life, yet you say she must die.
To deny a paralyzed human-being her feeding tube is no different than locking someone in a cell and taking her only food supply; letting her sit there and starve to death.
Mr. Shaivo wants her dead. He has refused to transfer guardianship, he has refused $1 million, and has gone out of his way to ensure her demise. What can she say, what can she do, what does she know that she must die for. She has a secret that he does not want revealed; however great or small. This man is a cold-blooded murderer, who seeks a torturous process of destroying his wife.
To those who read this and still believe Terry deserves death: May your black soul and lack of a heart rot you to the bowels of Hell. You should find you have some things in common with the natives.
I pity the ignorant fools who believe Terry Shaivo should die, for they have no idea what the outcome of this case will do to their lives.
I am tired of hearing she is a vegetable, and therefore not alive. She is alive. This is not opinion, it is FACT. She breathes on her own, responds to those around her, and has even said the phrase "Help me" on more than one occasion. After hearing those words, how can you condemn her? It is painfully obvious that she fears for her life, yet you say she must die.
To deny a paralyzed human-being her feeding tube is no different than locking someone in a cell and taking her only food supply; letting her sit there and starve to death.
Mr. Shaivo wants her dead. He has refused to transfer guardianship, he has refused $1 million, and has gone out of his way to ensure her demise. What can she say, what can she do, what does she know that she must die for. She has a secret that he does not want revealed; however great or small. This man is a cold-blooded murderer, who seeks a torturous process of destroying his wife.
To those who read this and still believe Terry deserves death: Switch places with her.
I do not know each fact per say, but I have been watching this story on the news since last year. I cannot believe that so many people care so little about a human life that they just assume starve her to death. In my (college) class we had a dicussion about this today. I was the only person out of nearly thirty who said let her parents take care of her. Who cares how old they are. This is now and now they want their child back, if her husband doesn't want her anymore that is understandable, he is alive and he wants to move on, then let him. There is no reason for all of the fighting going on it is absolutely ridiculous that people agree that she should die. I have an autistic sister, in her special education class there is a teenage boy who when he was 8 years old had a ceisure. Since then he has been in a wheelchair, on a feeding tube. He cannot speak, but he can laugh, he can look at you and it is obvious he knows you are there. Just like Terry Shaivo, he wasn't born this way (which still wouldn't make this right) it just happened. We are the way we are for a reason. So since this boy cannot do any more for himself than Terry Shaivo can for herself, does that in turn mean that his parents should starve him to death? Really, before you make up your mind that she should be EXECUTED for no reason what so ever, think about this child-would you do the same thing to him? Does anyone deserve that? I didn't think so.
While I see both sides of all issues, this one has more of a personal meaning for me, because I have some friends whose brother was struck by lightning and did not get CPR soon enough afterward, so he was in a state akin to Terri's for over 20 years, while his family lovingly cared for him. He just recently passed away: of natural causes.
I'm afraid that I have to speak up on this one... and say that it is cruel and unusual punishement to starve a person to death, regardless of their condition. And to euthanize someone in this position is even worse... it basically degrades her status from that of a dignified human individual to that of a pet that has grown too troublesome to continue caring for.
Where LIFE is at stake, I will always side with those who seek to preserve it rather than to, for convenience's sake, snuff it out.
This is why (and I know, dear friends, some of you respectfully disagree with me for this) I voted for George W. Bush: he stood up for the right to life.
There is an everyday complaint that human beings are trying to play God. There is the argument against stem cell research, abortions, death sentence... all things that include the termination, or creation, of life.
Let's all stop acting like God then... Let's see what God's desire for Terry is. If infact his will is for her to live...she will... HIS will, not the Shindler's or the Shiavo's. God's will WITH OUT medical intervention.
And for those who think that God's intervention for her life is indeed in the medical aspects, then you must also believe that it is in God's will to allow abortions, stem cell, and the death penalty. For those who involve God in their conversations and reasoning behind matters of the such, you must apply them to all aspects, not just pick and choose what suits you better at the time.
For Terry's family, do not deny her right to privacy. Her face needs not to be plastered over the television or the internet. Do you want your worst moments advertised? Do you want the world to see when you hurt? When your ashamed? When you fall? God has tried to call her home, let her go home at last.
I'm a consdrvative and, issues of morality aside, I am appalled at this entire situation. If you look at the American "conscience", we get furious when a person starves their dog and uprise when Marines put underwear on the head of an enemy soldier and laugh at him. And yet, we will willingly starve one of our own citizens, who is guilty of no crime.
Congress not only should be involved, Congress MUST be involved. How long can we stand by and allow this kind of rank torture to continue? People say "oh, she won't be aware of the pain of starvation" - yet, this is a woman who responds and smiles at her parents. Trust me, she'll feel it. Her blood will be on the hands of her husband, the judge who allowed her to be starved and all people who condone this travisty.
I really believe that the reason everyone is so stirred up about this is everyone's own personal beliefs. I think that it should all come down to what Terry would have wanted in this case and I feel as a married person that usually a Husband and Wife to some degree do talk about situations like this and I do not feel that it is Murder or euthanasia as 50 years ago it would not even be an option as G-Tubes was not an option.I feel that sometimes we forget that this is about one woman and our own feelings and emotions get caught up in it. So please take the time to make a Living Will and that way you do have a voice in what happens to you.
This is nothing less than Government approved domestic violence. Years ago, when I lived under domestic violence, the violator would have loved to have had this government approved control over me. I believe this is he EX husbands control over her, approved by the court. The courts have made this decision, it is the upper courts who should step in and help. I'm also curious as to the record of this judge regarding domestic violence issues in his courtroom. I've never responded on the internet to anything before, but I believe a person is being murdered, and the courts have covered their mouths with their own duct tape!
If one believes in heaven or has ever had a religious experience then they would be at peace with death. The only negative to dying is the effect on familiy, children and friends, not the spirit that passes on. So many people are acting like death isn't part of life or nature. Let her be at peace not in a bed for decades. Letting go is another part of life, obsession over one death is so out of proportion for a society that lets children die of cancer everyday and kills so many in wars that benefit only the ruling class. It is amazing what a magnifying glass on one of 6 billion people can do. Go help your neighbor or a stranger or volunteer and you can make such a difference. This has become a joke and she is a mere political football. Stop killing innocents, but let the dying die in dignity.
People keep saying that they're taking her life unnaturally and God wouldn't want that. Has anyone considered the fact that she is being kept alive UNNATURALLY??? If she didn't have a tube pumping food into her, she would not be alive. That is pretty unnatural IMO. I believe the husband knows better than anyone what Terry wanted and since he has very little to gain by her death and has given it a chance for FOURTEEN years, I side with him and the courts on this one.
Thank you, I totally agree with that, she was being unnaturally kept alive! Man people, who are you to say anything about what she wanted, and congress should get involved? No they shouldn't! This case seems pretty outrageous to me, only hearing about it for the first time and reading some of these comments, I think that these people should be more conserned about their own lives, and stop mixing family, and religeous issues, in with political issues.
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Normally Lydia I don’t comment on such a controversial subject but I just have to speak out. My wife has voiced to me several times that she would not want to be put on any kind of machine, be it a feeding tube or artificial respiration, if she were to go into a vegetative or semi-vegetative state or comma due to an accident or injury. But she also refuses to make her wishes known on paper because she has this strange belief that if she did she would be somehow promoting bad fortune in her life or something.
Anyway, it has always fallen to the spouse to determine what to do if their spouse were to fall into this unfortunate situation. It should not matter that this guy has another women in his life right now. He is her spouse and he should have the only say in this matter. It is the same thing with funeral wishes. If the person who dies made their wishes known to their spouse that they wanted cremation, for example, the parents of that spouse don’t have the right to interfere with that decision. These are very touchy issues, but this is my opinion on these matters.
Thanks, Johnny!
Anywone else?
Two lessons:
1) Don't just tell your spouse, PUT IT IN WRITING. Then tell everyone who cares about you just what you really want.
2) Think really hard about marrying somebody who can't get along with your parents.
Terri flunked both tests and now we have the U.S. Congress, the worst possible venue, getting involved with what is really just a family dispute.
Thanks, Tim! I appreciate the comments!
: )
My deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the parents of Terry Shaivo...to stand by helplessly as a monster and his lawyer conspire with dollar signs in their eyes to let their little girl waste away in a cruel and senseless death, they are also the victims of this ordeal.
Question: Would Mr.Shaivo continue to fight if there wasn't a million dollar credit hanging over his wife's coffin?
I believe in God, and I believe that His name doesn't end in Greer.
Question: Does Judge Greer realize that the death sentence he has handed out will come back to haunt him? And when it does, I can only hope he realizes the true ramifications of the precedent he has set. It may be his own life that someone decides to end.
I was raised that it is wrong to hate. But, I admit - i feel hatred in my heart for these cruel and money hungry BASTARDS!! I pray that God delivers hard justice and that Shaivo, his lawyer and Judge Greer choke on the fear of it.
I pity the ignorant fools who believe Terry Shaivo should die, for they have no idea what the outcome of this case will do to their lives.
I am tired of hearing she is a vegetable, and therefore not alive. She is alive. This is not opinion, it is FACT. She breathes on her own, responds to those around her, and has even said the phrase "Help me" on more than one occasion. After hearing those words, how can you condemn her? It is painfully obvious that she fears for her life, yet you say she must die.
To deny a paralyzed human-being her feeding tube is no different than locking someone in a cell and taking her only food supply; letting her sit there and starve to death.
Mr. Shaivo wants her dead. He has refused to transfer guardianship, he has refused $1 million, and has gone out of his way to ensure her demise. What can she say, what can she do, what does she know that she must die for. She has a secret that he does not want revealed; however great or small. This man is a cold-blooded murderer, who seeks a torturous process of destroying his wife.
To those who read this and still believe Terry deserves death:
May your black soul and lack of a heart rot you to the bowels of Hell. You should find you have some things in common with the natives.
I pity the ignorant fools who believe Terry Shaivo should die, for they have no idea what the outcome of this case will do to their lives.
I am tired of hearing she is a vegetable, and therefore not alive. She is alive. This is not opinion, it is FACT. She breathes on her own, responds to those around her, and has even said the phrase "Help me" on more than one occasion. After hearing those words, how can you condemn her? It is painfully obvious that she fears for her life, yet you say she must die.
To deny a paralyzed human-being her feeding tube is no different than locking someone in a cell and taking her only food supply; letting her sit there and starve to death.
Mr. Shaivo wants her dead. He has refused to transfer guardianship, he has refused $1 million, and has gone out of his way to ensure her demise. What can she say, what can she do, what does she know that she must die for. She has a secret that he does not want revealed; however great or small. This man is a cold-blooded murderer, who seeks a torturous process of destroying his wife.
To those who read this and still believe Terry deserves death:
Switch places with her.
I do not know each fact per say, but I have been watching this story on the news since last year. I cannot believe that so many people care so little about a human life that they just assume starve her to death. In my (college) class we had a dicussion about this today. I was the only person out of nearly thirty who said let her parents take care of her. Who cares how old they are. This is now and now they want their child back, if her husband doesn't want her anymore that is understandable, he is alive and he wants to move on, then let him. There is no reason for all of the fighting going on it is absolutely ridiculous that people agree that she should die. I have an autistic sister, in her special education class there is a teenage boy who when he was 8 years old had a ceisure. Since then he has been in a wheelchair, on a feeding tube. He cannot speak, but he can laugh, he can look at you and it is obvious he knows you are there. Just like Terry Shaivo, he wasn't born this way (which still wouldn't make this right) it just happened. We are the way we are for a reason. So since this boy cannot do any more for himself than Terry Shaivo can for herself, does that in turn mean that his parents should starve him to death? Really, before you make up your mind that she should be EXECUTED for no reason what so ever, think about this child-would you do the same thing to him? Does anyone deserve that? I didn't think so.
Wow! Those are all very heartfelt sentiments.
While I see both sides of all issues, this one has more of a personal meaning for me, because I have some friends whose brother was struck by lightning and did not get CPR soon enough afterward, so he was in a state akin to Terri's for over 20 years, while his family lovingly cared for him. He just recently passed away: of natural causes.
I'm afraid that I have to speak up on this one... and say that it is cruel and unusual punishement to starve a person to death, regardless of their condition. And to euthanize someone in this position is even worse... it basically degrades her status from that of a dignified human individual to that of a pet that has grown too troublesome to continue caring for.
Where LIFE is at stake, I will always side with those who seek to preserve it rather than to, for convenience's sake, snuff it out.
This is why (and I know, dear friends, some of you respectfully disagree with me for this) I voted for George W. Bush: he stood up for the right to life.
There is an everyday complaint that human beings are trying to play God. There is the argument against stem cell research, abortions, death sentence... all things that include the termination, or creation, of life.
Let's all stop acting like God then... Let's see what God's desire for Terry is. If infact his will is for her to live...she will... HIS will, not the Shindler's or the Shiavo's. God's will WITH OUT medical intervention.
And for those who think that God's intervention for her life is indeed in the medical aspects, then you must also believe that it is in God's will to allow abortions, stem cell, and the death penalty. For those who involve God in their conversations and reasoning behind matters of the such, you must apply them to all aspects, not just pick and choose what suits you better at the time.
For Terry's family, do not deny her right to privacy. Her face needs not to be plastered over the television or the internet. Do you want your worst moments advertised? Do you want the world to see when you hurt? When your ashamed? When you fall? God has tried to call her home, let her go home at last.
-RD, Florida
I'm a consdrvative and, issues of morality aside, I am appalled at this entire situation. If you look at the American "conscience", we get furious when a person starves their dog and uprise when Marines put underwear on the head of an enemy soldier and laugh at him. And yet, we will willingly starve one of our own citizens, who is guilty of no crime.
Congress not only should be involved, Congress MUST be involved. How long can we stand by and allow this kind of rank torture to continue? People say "oh, she won't be aware of the pain of starvation" - yet, this is a woman who responds and smiles at her parents. Trust me, she'll feel it. Her blood will be on the hands of her husband, the judge who allowed her to be starved and all people who condone this travisty.
Wow! This is the most comments I've ever had on a post!
(Of course, there WERE some duplicates I had to delete...)
I really believe that the reason everyone is so stirred up about this is everyone's own personal beliefs. I think that it should all come down to what Terry would have wanted in this case and I feel as a married person that usually a Husband and Wife to some degree do talk about situations like this and I do not feel that it is Murder or euthanasia as 50 years ago it would not even be an option as G-Tubes was not an option.I feel that sometimes we forget that this is about one woman and our own feelings and emotions get caught up in it. So please take the time to make a Living Will and that way you do have a voice in what happens to you.
This is nothing less than Government approved domestic violence. Years ago, when I lived under domestic violence, the violator would have loved to have had this government approved control over me. I believe this is he EX husbands control over her, approved by the court. The courts have made this decision, it is the upper courts who should step in and help. I'm also curious as to the record of this judge regarding domestic violence issues in his courtroom. I've never responded on the internet to anything before, but I believe a person is being murdered, and the courts have covered their mouths with their own duct tape!
Thank you everyone for stopping by to voice your opinions. It's amazing how much there is to consider on this subject!
If one believes in heaven or has ever had a religious experience then they would be at peace with death. The only negative to dying is the effect on familiy, children and friends, not the spirit that passes on. So many people are acting like death isn't part of life or nature. Let her be at peace not in a bed for decades. Letting go is another part of life, obsession over one death is so out of proportion for a society that lets children die of cancer everyday and kills so many in wars that benefit only the ruling class. It is amazing what a magnifying glass on one of 6 billion people can do. Go help your neighbor or a stranger or volunteer and you can make such a difference. This has become a joke and she is a mere political football. Stop killing innocents, but let the dying die in dignity.
People keep saying that they're taking her life unnaturally and God wouldn't want that. Has anyone considered the fact that she is being kept alive UNNATURALLY??? If she didn't have a tube pumping food into her, she would not be alive. That is pretty unnatural IMO. I believe the husband knows better than anyone what Terry wanted and since he has very little to gain by her death and has given it a chance for FOURTEEN years, I side with him and the courts on this one.
Thank you, I totally agree with that, she was being unnaturally kept alive!
Man people, who are you to say anything about what she wanted, and congress should get involved? No they shouldn't!
This case seems pretty outrageous to me, only hearing about it for the first time and reading some of these comments, I think that these people should be more conserned about their own lives, and stop mixing family, and religeous issues, in with political issues.
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